Item genre: Answer poem

Harry Ransom Humanities Research Centre: Pre-1700 MS 151
Dering Manuscript of Katherine Philips's Poetry (1662-1663)
Katherine Philips (Author)

Item 26 (Verse, Answer poem), p. 27


Katherine Philips (Author)
Edward Dering (Scribe)

Upon the double murder of K. Charles in answer to a libellous rhyme made by V. P:

I think not on the state, nor am concern'd

...

Who dare pull down a crown, tear up a Tomb

34

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For discussion, and text, of Vavasor Powell's poem, see Elizabeth Hageman and Andrea Sununu, " "More Copies of It Abroad than I Could Have Imagin'd" : Further Manuscript Texts of Katherine Philips, The Matchless Orinda", English Manuscript Studies 1100-1700, 5, 1994 , pp. 128-131.

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Harry Ransom Humanities Research Centre: Pre-1700 MS 151
Dering Manuscript of Katherine Philips's Poetry (1662-1663)
Katherine Philips (Author)

Item 27 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 28-29


Katherine Philips (Author)
Edward Dering (Author, Scribe)

To the noble Silvander on his dream and navy, personating Orinda preferring Rosania before Solomon's traffic to Ophir in these verses

Then I am happier than the King

...

Brings pearl and Ophir gold to me

Sir to be noble when 'twas voted down

...

That what you will accept, you must create

36

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A later hand indicates in the left margin that "Sir E. Dering" is indicated by the coterie name, Silvander. Dering's eight-line verse is cited above Philips's answer to Dering; hence the two incipits and explicits here. The line dimensions of 36 apply to Philips's poem.

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Harry Ransom Humanities Research Centre: Pre-1700 MS 151
Dering Manuscript of Katherine Philips's Poetry (1662-1663)
Katherine Philips (Author)

Item 78 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 118-120


Katherine Philips (Author)
Edward Dering (Scribe)

An ode upon retirement made upon occasion of Mr Cowley's on that subject

No, no, unfaithful world thou hast

...

Than either Greek or Roman ever could before

80
National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 11 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 235-237


Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

To Lucasia On a libellous Pasquil written on me, by that Person who had so much disoblig'd Antenor , (& is mention'd in a copy in this book, beginning thus, Must then my follies &c)

Honour, which differs man from man, much more

...

That dare be Just, & rip my heart to you

58 lines

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For the identity of Philips's antagonist, see note to item 24 , below.

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National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 24 (Verse, Answer poem), p. 265


Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

To Antenor On a Paper of mine, which an unworthy Adversary of his, threatened to publish, to prejudice him, in Cromwell's time

Must then my follies, be thy scandal too?

...

Let him be still himself, & let him live

20 lines

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The Dering manuscript (items 18 and 22) names the adversary as "J. Jones". Most likely Jenkin Jones (b.1623) of Llandetty, this may alternatively be either Colonel John Jones, regicide, of Maes-y-garnedd (1597?-1660), or Jenkin Jones, of Kilgerran (d.1689).

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National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 25 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 266-267


Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

On the double murder of the King (In answer to a libellous paper written by V. Powell, at my house) These verses were those mention'd in the precedent copy

I think not on the State, nor am concern'd

...

Who dare pull down a Crown, tear up a Tomb

34 lines

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For discussion, and text, of Vavasor Powell's poem, see Elizabeth Hageman and Andrea Sununu, " "More Copies of It Abroad than I Could Have Imagin'd" : Further Manuscript Texts of Katherine Philips, The Matchless Orinda", English Manuscript Studies 1100-1700, 5, 1994 , pp. 128-131.

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National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 35 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 287-288


Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)
Edward Dering (Author)

To Sir Edward Dering the Noble Silvander who dream'd that I thus preferr'd Rosania 's friendship, before Solomon's traffic to Ophir 1651

Then I am happier than the King

...

Brings Pearls, & Ophir Gold to me. thus far Sr E. D.

Sir To be noble, when 'twas voted down

...

That what you will accept, you must create

34 lines

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The scribe copies 8 lines of Dering's precursor poem, before copying Philips's reply. The line dimensions above refer to Philips's poem only.

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National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 48 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 311-312[314]


Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Ode upon Retirement

No, No, unfaithful World, thou hast

...

Than either Greek or Roman, ever could before

80 lines
National Library of Wales: MS 776B
The 'Rosania Manuscript' of Katherine Philips's Works (1664-1667)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Item 95 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 382[384]-385[387]


Henry More (Author)
Katherine Philips (Author)
Polexander (Scribe)

Out of Mr More's Cop. Conf.

Thrice happy he whose Name is writ above

...

He takes his own & calmly goes his way

Eternal Reason, Glorious Majesty

...

But t'imitate, enjoy, & study thee

60 lines

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Philips's poem is preceded by 18 lines transcribed from More's Cupid's Conflict, , printed in Henry More, , Democritus Platonissans: or, an essay upon the infinity of worlds out of Platonick principles. Hereunto is annexed Cupid's Conflict, together with the Philosopher's Devotion, Cambridge, 1646, and in Henry More, Philosophical Poems, etc., Cambridge, 1647. The line dimensions above refer only to Philips's poem.

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National Library of Wales: MS 775B
Autograph Manuscript of Katherine Philips's Poetry (1650-1658)
Katherine Philips (Author, Scribe)

Item 25 (Verse, Answer poem), pp. 63, 65


Katherine Philips (Author, Scribe)

To the truly noble Sir Ed: Dering (the worthy Silvander,) on his dream, & navy

Sir To be noble when 'twas voted down

...

That what you will accept, you must create

36 lines

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Unlike the copies of this poem in the Dering and Rosania manuscripts, Edward Dering's precursor lines are not transcribed here.

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[pp. 64 and 66 are blank and unruled.]